As a carnivore biologist, Hawley says he would love it if mountain lions were here. We even had a sighting someone here at DEEP, in my office, was convinced they saw a mountain lion. They're out hunting for deer and where there's deer, there's people. John Lutz, 99 Beagle Boot Lane, Maysville, WV 26833, John Lutz (Eastern Puma Research Network, Maysville, WV). You know, weve had so many home entries this year. It was a flooded area. We need them for the health of our forests.. In the second camp, there are those issuing the denials, pointing to the lack of photographic evidence, or the absence of tracks, or the simple truth that many people dont seem to know the difference between a cougar and a bobcat and a lynx and even, in some cases, a golden retriever. It crossed the road just below where the Jaquiths lived. Bobcat tails, though prominent when they walk, are only about six or seven inches long. Its OK, he told me. Would like to discuss, this event with you. When seen in Florida, they are of approx. They certainly have, you know, lower levels of conflicts and home entries than we do here in Connecticut. I have seen plenty of bobcat in my life and my son and I were even lucky enough to see a lynx about 8 years ago. Adult females can be 7 feet long and weigh between . The Grandfather of eastern Cougar Studies, began investigating big cat sightings in the 1940s. The regions top predator, the coyote, is classified by biologists as a mesopredator (a type that in New England includes skunks and raccoons), which feeds primarily on smaller animals. I have been investigating big cat reports across the eastern U.S., since 1963, have collected over 11,000 sightingsThis message is NOT a joke!! The last catamount in Vermont is finally, officially, certainly dead. I will try to take more photos with an object to show scale. About a few miles from the covered bridge. He is a consummate storyteller, and he wears on his sleeve his affection for the region and the hard-working, commonsense people who inhabit it. Wildlife do really crazy things, and you just never know.. Johnny Lutz E-mail it to epuma@frontier.com We were both very startled and when it ran away it had a long tail with white and black at the tip.I lived in Colorado for several years, in the vicinity of mountain lions, never saw one and never thought for a moment that they could possibly be in Vermont. I have seen a bobcat as I had one that hung around one of the places I lived-I believe he may have been hurt because he hung around for about a month which is uncharacteristic of them if I remember correctly, and I also believe he same one was hit by Harpoon Brewery in Windsor and boy do they clean up wild cats fast. Please make your sighting as detailed as possible. Box, city, zip-code, so a copy can be sent in early April. He also collects sighting reports on his blog, simply dubbed, "New Hampshire Mountain Lion." The blog still gets sightings, most recently on Aug. 3. If you have a cell phone telephone number I can send photos to, I will send you photos of the prints in the snow around my porchside door. Sincerely, John Lutz, 99 Beagle boots Lane, Maysville, WV 26833 or epuma@frontier.com, Hellomy husband and I were at our Vermont vacation home taking a furniture delivery. There were also people who spoke of seeing prints in a specific area in Hartland as well. Cris Ericson 802-289-1000. Half the sightings have been of a black cougar, however, all CREDIBLE sources. Waterbury Roundabout is an online news site launched in May 2020 as a volunteer effort in collaboration with the University of Vermont's Reporting and Documentary Storytelling program to cover local news in and around Waterbury, Vermont. I have seen herons and other things there. Kimberly King. If these people say they saw something, Im going to listen., If theres one thing people on all sides of the debate can agree on, its that a breeding population of cougars is essential to the overall health of New Englands ecosystems, which currently lack an apex predator. The way that people see [bobcats] in the woods, when they're running through, [their tails] can even seem longer than they are, Bernier said. They set the stage for the exotics to move in, and this has a huge impact on our ecology, he said. Very distinguishable nails marks in the snow. They were at least 4-5 inches at the widest part of the pad. My understanding is that they can roam a 50 mile radius as home, so seeing one there could mean it lives 50 miles away in the woods. But other hard evidence of the big cats presence is elusive. Finally, in the third camp, there are the true believersthe cougar truthers, if you willthe men and women for whom the only logical conclusion (often reached after a significant investment of time, thought, and sometimes money) is that right here, right now, cougars live among us, feeding and breeding and rearing their young, and that suggesting otherwise is sheer ignorance, willful denial, or part of a mosaic of conspiracy. I encourage everyone who has seen a mountain lion or heard of a report to please leave a post here. I doubt it but it could be a mountain lion. It used to be that a bear would go into a house when someone wasnt home. Given the long, shared border between these provinces and New England, along with plentiful evidence that other species cross this border regularly, it seems entirely possible that cougars would also engage in international travel. Hes also unafraid to take unpopular positions when he deems it necessary: Shortly before our meeting, hed signed a petition in favor of keeping ATVs off public roads. Because he lives among them, Harrigan understands that no one knows the woods better. No one is on the road at 430-5am. On a mountain lion that died on a Connecticut highway. Too loud, too close and too deep a voice to be a shy bobcat2 nights with a big fire blazing. When one person submitted a blurry photo to the newspaper-they printed it, the authorities saying it was a dog I believe if I recall correctly. The last catamount in Vermont is finally, officially, certainly dead. As a scientist, lack of evidence is very good evidence. A rare Missouri mountain lion sighting was reported recently after one of the big cats was hit by a vehicle in Franklin County. I'll tell you that.. Li mistaking that long swaying tail. But other hard evidence of the big cats presence is elusive. Recent reports of big cat sightings have captured the imagination of local residents eager to know what species of wild felines might be living in Waterbury. In 1994, scat collected after a sighting in Craftsbury, Vermont, was found to contain cougar hair (the animals are prone to ingesting their hair while grooming), and the commissioner of the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department circulated a memo with the following line: It is possible that cougars of unknown origin may be breeding to a limited extent in Vermont. if you send me a USPS mailing address, will forward to you, a few of the many Eastern Puma Network Newsletters, we have published on an irregular basis since 1973. Wed be seeing more carcasses of prey we would be seeing at least some carcasses of mountain lion prey. There were pine cones on window sills, a well-used hatchet and a variety of animal figurines on display, and, near the television, a stack of videos including Life of a Predator and The African Lion. I reported it to Fish and Wildlife but I bet they are laughing- I am in shock! The U.S. 3 Last 10 Years. I have learned one thing in my career, and thats to never say never, she said. Ottmann grew up and still lives just minutes from the tavern; his familiarity with the establishment was obvious (after we met in the parking lot, he led me into the building through the kitchen, greeting each of the staff by name). However, reports have started surfacing again in recent years, and we have now spoken with no fewer than SIX reliable people who have SEEN one (maybe the same one, for all we know, but I doubt it) around the Rutland area -- primarily in Mendon or Chittenden -- in the last year. He says that if mountain lions do . Im not an expert on human psychology, but if youre looking for something, you have a greater chance of actually seeing it. And he said, This is where the mountain lion crossed. We walked in and there were fresh bobcat tracks in there. There were pine cones on window sills, a well-used hatchet and a variety of animal figurines on display, and, near the television, a stack of videos including. Hi Cris, So this is the best we could do for a photo. And then he drove up into my yard to read the meter. The tail, I said. The cat was out day light standing in hill that was near road only about 3 FT off ground, looking at me driving by. Its documented through track surveys, aerial surveys, trapping and collaring surveys. He knew it was only a matter of time. He was big. We hadnt seen a cougar, nor any evidence to suggest a cougar had traveled these woods recently. It wailed just one time but it woke me from a sound sleep. [4] However, the 1946 taxonomy is now in question. To date, Keeping Track has helped conserve 40,000 acres in 12 states and inQuebec. In 2011, a cougar was hit by a car and killed on a Connecticut highway. Spatz and Sue dont want to go where were going.. I think they never left, Ottmann piped in. I studied the track it was the front paw left in the silt while the cat was drinking from the brook. In 2011, genetic testing confirmed that a mountain lion originated in South Dakota and traveled more than 1,500 miles before being struck by a car on the Merritt Parkway, according to Reuters. Both the front (left) and rear paws of this animal . I did not see [the cats], but I did talk to the guy. She favors plaid shirts, green Dickies work pants, and hiking boots, and she chided me for shaking her hand too gently. Its closest living relative is the cheetah. About 70 feet from the table, appeared to be a very large cat standing . But that was OK. Bo Ottmann. Morse introduced me to her cat, Allister, whom she referred to as her portable puma. Then she fetched me a beer. If these animals are not in the habitat, what we see is an overabundance of herbivores., The ecologist John Laundre, who has spent 35 years studying cougars, concurs. Patrick's reporting has appeared on NPR's Morning Edition, Here & Now, and All Things Considered. Mountain Lions in the St. Croix River Valley. I am here to tell you I was stalked by a mt lion in vt and was lucky to get away with my life. The deer dont eat the exotics, but they eat the competitors. Our county announced that they do not think they will be able to retain our county trapper due to our serious budget crisis. Was getting ready to let the dog out but I thought it was a big dog that was loose. Because while male cougars eventually strike out on their own and occasionally wander far from home, females are, as Morse puts it, hardwired to remain close to their mothers home range. I noticed that there were many great websites, blogs, and discussion boards devoted to mountain lion sightings in other states of New England, but not one just for Vermont. It was dark so I couldnt get a good look but I waited till it came out past a vehicle and saw the outline of the entire body. Those are the two closest populations that we have here. It could simply mean someone who had an illegal pet or captive animal released the cougar into the wild. In Vermont, it was 1881. Morally i mean Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Around 7:10 pm this evening August 02, 2022 my wife entered our Oakwood Farm business off 6 Weed Road in Essex Center with headlights on. Send picture to epuma@frontier.com Would greatly like to see your picture. But its also a great story that lays out how an animal this large, at 150 pounds, traveling through even rural areas, leaves signs and is detected. 35 wild cougars, known as the Florida Panther, of which a few are totally BLACK, and known as panther, but are actually of the jaguar family In the last few days, 3 sightings have been reported to us, large brown cats in Tennessee and Indiana, a total black cat, in Virginia. Tom Stearns, a Vermont Game Warden says they get reports all the time. I noticed that there were many great websites, blogs, and discussion boards devoted to mountain lion sightings in other states of New England, but not one just for Vermont. Tracks are among the most common forms of verifiable evidence of Mountain Lion sightings, so it helps to have some idea of what to look for. I am pretty sure that I saw a mountain lion yesterday around 9:00am just on my way out of Glover, Vermont heading to East Hardwick. Until recently, it was thought that the last mountain lion (a very big cat -- aka a catamount) disappeared from our state decades ago. I swear that is what I saw this morning at about 4 am in my drive. We see Bear every day, and Fishers it was none of those, nor a Bobcat as it was twice the size of our Belgian Shepherd dog. If you search vally news archives I believe its there-its clearly not a dog. [Betty] and the other guys dont do this shit. 0. To Betty and Ottmann, the dominant narrative of the occasional itinerant cougar from the West is not particularly relevant to the facts on the ground. And were one of the most densely populated states as far as humans. 26M views, 14K likes, 2K loves, 8.1K comments, 19K shares, Facebook Watch Videos from VT: This mountain lion is about to turn a vacation into a nightmare. Let us know the date, time of day, how long the sighting lasted for, where you saw the cat in Vermont, and describe what the cat looked likeand was doing. She served as the Senior Producer for 'The Colin McEnroe Show' for several years before stepping down in 2021 and returning to her previous career as a registered nurse. They especially come down from the mountains when there is a big water shortgage. Its on the property that we own over there. There is no question about it: cougars are not only being seen in eastern North America, some are attempting to recolonize their former habitats. Stay clear and give 'em space. Glen Gunelic Vermont Mountain Lion Sightings. of Energy & Environmental Protection. "Several sightings have occurred at the site of a known animal crossing in the park." Besides reviewing the sighting reports, Linzey seeks other evidence of mountain lions. I started this blog for people to discuss mountain lion sightings and reports in the Green Mountain State of Vermont. Harrigan's column mentioned above continues to talk about this. Welcome to the blog dedicated to discussing mountain lion sightings in Vermont! Bernier gets more than 50 reports of mountain lions a year. NH Fish & Game deny all reports but recently someone got a photo of one killed on the hwy before State Police told them to move on and "there's nothing here to see" as the carcass was being loaded into a Fish and Game truck. We think theyre coming in from Canada, Betty told me. Morse founded Keeping Track in the belief that getting citizens interested and engaged in wildlife will have the knock-on effect of getting them interested and engaged in how land-use decisions affect wild populationsand might provide the impetus for conservation efforts. These are rare, single events, and in such cases, the cat will leave a prominent trail of evidence wherever they go: indisputable game camera photos, camera photos, scat, tracks, sightings, Bernier said. Very Very fast. While the Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks department hesitates to give solid numbers because they feel methods for tracking the population need to be improved, their estimate in 2019 was about 4,000 - 4,500 mountain lions. If there are mountain lions skulking around Vermont, they wont stay hidden for long, Bernier said. I was in Waitsfield on the common rd when it happened. He drove me out to the spot. He honked his horn to scare them off, and the cats made their way into Snows yard. The cat was huge and tail was at least 3 feet long and thick. Even in the controlled environment of a lab, the truth about Eastern cougars seems to be almost willfully eluding its seekers. All of which is to say that if Alexander Crowell wasnt afraid on that long-ago Thanksgiving Day, he probably should have been. Harrigan nodded. On another large animal that is most definitely here: bears. He said there were two, he called them mountain lions.. I have no choice but to take this seriously, he told me. The animal, I learned, is called many things: mountain lion, panther, catamount, puma, cougar and more. Originally I began in the Mid-Atlantic States, but widely expanded my collection to include all the New England States, at the suggestion of the late Prof. Harold Hitchcock of Vermonts Middlebury College. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. The Twitter user tweeted in surprise that they learned a bobcat and mountain lion are the same creature, which prompted several follow-up clarifications that the animals are, in fact, different . But no. This was a large tan colored cat with a long tail. If moved like a leopard but without spotty leopard skin. But a high-profile sighting in 2011 stirred up renewed interest in the animals here, when a mountain lion from South Dakota was hit and killed by a car on a Connecticut highway. Weve done a lot of work over the years investigating sightings. I thought it might be a bob cat or a huge fox but I wasnt sure. [5] Perhaps, then, the ultimate question isnt whether cougars are among us, but rather how we can encourage them to settle here. The other, a utility worker checking the meter on Ripley Road, claimed he saw two mountain lions when describing the encounter to Ripley Road resident Russell Snow. VT Fish & Wildlife photo by Deb James. At first I thought it was a deer because of the color and size but as we drew closer I saw the thick long tail and realized what it was. So all the other states in the Northeast that have bear populations have a harvest on their bears. Any known activity in Southern Vermont? I am quite sure that I saw a mountain lion (a juvenile) yesterday afternoon north of the Dummerston Covered bridge along the West River. Hey, I know what I saw. Back in the 60s a traveling zoo lost their black panther, and denied it. We even enjoyed the pleasure of taking them out to dinner, then returning wiith them for a delightful 3 days with them, dicussing the big cats, while they vacationed at their Atlantic Oceanfront Cottage.. HHH was firmly convinced, wild cougars inhabited Vermont, as well as each of New Englands nothernmost states. McEnroe: Scientifically, this is a case where absence of evidence is kind of evidence of absence, right? Its a cool story with how far that animal walked. The presentation promises to be a magnificently illustrated introduction to cougar biology and ecology in the broad diversity of habitats where Morse has studied them, from Alberta to the Mexican border. Well, theres no difference between Maine and New Brunswick, anyway, said Betty. A 140-pound male mountain lion was hit by a car and killed in 2011 in Milford, Connecticut. The topic was discussed at the town's June 10 city council meeting after a potential sighting on June 1 in the Savanna area of William O'Brian State . It had a round, pudgy wild cat face with black accents. Morse has been tracking cougars for 45 years, mostly in the mountains of the West, where their existence is not in doubt. My elderly mother lives with us so I got up to investigate and saw a large animal with a tail at least a foot long walking between the cars in our driveway. I showed several farmers and they all said wow that is a huge cat track. Hawley: Yeah. It walked with a calm, cat stride, stopped and turned towards my husband. This assessment is echoed by the aforementioned Christopher Spatz, who has been studying cougars for better than 20 years. You dont even have to go out and look for it.. Now, lets start talking about our favorite big cat! And even the home entries are kind of changing. Nowhere in New England is the matter definitively settled. E-mail address: epuma@frontier.com, I saw a mountain lion in 2010, in March in Hartland Vermont during a horrendous snow storm. You were the first person I thought of after I calmed down enough to think straight! COLCHESTER, Vt. Catamounts. The tail was very long and we estimate it to have been at least a hundred pounds. I must have looked doubtfulwe were within spitting distance of a heavily traffickedroad and only 12 miles from downtown Hartfordbut both Ottmann and Betty told me that cougars actually prefer more populated areas, since thats where deer tend to congregate. Now only feet from what I realized was a mountain lion I was in horror. The lion three feet away crouched down and screamed in my face, at that point i have never been so scared in my life i thought this is it i am a dead man. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal likely trekked more than 1,500 miles from South Dakota, a journey that was captured by trail camera (above). We walked to the other side of it to get a better view (its back was to us) and it suddenly realized we were there and jumped up and looked right at us. Published: 9/3/2021 5:01:49 PM. Proctor to vote on what constitutes a public nu Hartland board appoints acting town manager, First spring flowers are in bloom in Rutland, Rutland Area Robotics receive 2016 challenge, EPA honors Efficiency Vermont as 2023 Energy Star Partner of the Year, We must have courage to address gun problem, Confused about Affordable Heat Bill? Equinox, Manchester, Vt told me he has seen them in the high mountain road there. In some areas of the east, the absence of apex predators has led to a surplus of deer, which have then ravaged the understory and ground levels of vegetation. She is the editor-in-chief of Headwaters Magazine, UVMs environmental publication. Hi Annie, I dont know if you still keep up with this blog but I thought Id give it a try. Fear is actually one of the most powerful ecological forces we know, and its a really important management tool., According to Laundre, the problems caused by a relatively fear-free ecosystem are not always obvious, in part because they can take decades to fully manifest. It had rained previously. Mountain Lions Living Mountain Lion Sightings in Vermont in Vermont? And so we come to the great divide over cougars in New England. He soon developed a five-question litmus test: How far away were you? See more at:Here, Phone & Fax: It was stalking in the bushes like a cat and moved like a cat. The scientific name for the catamount is Puma concolor. Please email us at editor@staging.mountaintimes.info thank you!! Morse, 70, comports herself in a friendly and no-nonsense manner. Just found this site, two weeks ago a good friend took a number of pictures of a large cat 100 feet from her deck. Mountain Lions: cougars, pumas, panthers and catamounts. Yet I also remembered something Sue Morse had told me months before, as we sat in her living room drinking beer and chatting cats. I started this blog for people to discuss mountain lion sightings and reports in the Green Mountain State of Vermont. I was driving yesterday (July 31st '13) around midnight on northbound I-89 about half way between Wight River Junction and Montpelier when a beautiful cat creature a size of a greyhound jumped from the midroad bushes and sped in front of my car across the road. If you have any pictures you can post them here too! Harrigan is 72 and lives just outside the northern New Hampshire town of Colebrook; he has a long, craggy face that seems almost to have molded itself after the mountainous landscape of his home state. We have people eating dinner in their kitchen, they hear a noise, all of a sudden a bear walks in, so they run into their bedroom to get away from the bear, while the bears out ransacking their refrigerator. PO Box 183 (Postal address) Indeed, one of her steadiest sources of funding for Keeping Track is a presentation on cougars that has been known to draw more than 500 audience members. He didn't want to dispute what people are saying they saw, he simply says they need proof to substantiate it. His studies NEVER ended, even after going nearly blind by the mid-1990s. These highlights have been edited and condensed for length and clarity. 2023 The Mountain Times, Outer Limits Publishing LLC | All rights reserved. We strolled across the tavern parking lot and ducked into the forest, where Ottmann maintains a portion of his $15,000 worth of wildlife recording equipment (hes had no luck capturing a cougar on camera, though, despite more than a decade of trying). If theres a middle ground in the cougar debate, it belongs to John Harrigan, a veteran outdoorsman, newspaper reporter, and widely read syndicated columnist. John A. Lutz Mountain Lion fever He wore red suspenders and a baseball cap. I was aware, too, of how a certain mythology surrounding the animal had taken root in Vermonts culture and even its identity: The University of Vermonts athletic teams, for instance, are known as the Vermont Catamounts, and their logo features a snarling cat lunging through the cleft of a V.. I can say that we didnt linger too long in the area. Vermont Fish and Wildlife say they get between 50 and 75 sightings here in Vermont, annually. This Snowy Cougar photograph captures the majestic nature of these feline predators. Pictures are pretty clear. Running into a mountain lion can be a scary experience. I hunt all over the country for big bucks. I dont ever say to people, Thats not what you saw. I say, I hope you saw one, Spatz told me when I called him at his home in upstate New York. Though the infamous catamount has been declared extinct in Vermont since 2018, several people spotted big cats that they thought to be mountain lions on Ripley Road two weeks ago, according to posts on Front Porch Forum. I started this blog for people to discuss mountain lion sightings and reports in the Green Mountain State of Vermont. Anyway, I hope you see this message. Hed encouraged me to keep my eyes open for deer carcasses cached in the trees (according to Ottmann, cougars are fantastic climbers and are known to stash their kills high in trees), but I saw only leaf-bare branches. I was proud to acknowledge the fact, of being a CLOSE friend to both the Professor & his wife Martene. And if it is, it will be just a matter of time before someone gets a photo of it, he said. I have no doubt but that cougars have been spotted all over the East Coast. My favorite mountain lion story while living in California years ago was the turkey hunter who crouched down in front of a rock then used his call several times. In that time frame, have collected over 9,500 excellent reports from responsible witnesses, which includes law enforcement & forestry personnel. Since 1890 in the U.S. and Canada, there have been 100 attacks on humans at all, according to the research organization The Cougar Network. Sincerely, It continues in Connecticut, where that South Dakota cat was killed in 2011, and in Massachusetts, despite two credible reports in the past quarter century (in one case, DNA-confirmed scat; in the other, verified tracks). The dam is a protected area from hunting. If you do see a big cat in your neighborhood, best practice is to leave it alone, according to Waterbury Game Warden Chad Barrett. So special. At around 9:30, Snow said, I was outside working and I heard the horn blow. Now the bears, they dont even care if people are home, theyll go right in the house. In their estimation, the presence of a breeding cougar population in New England would likely stem from our proximity to Canada, where, as they rightly point out, DNA analysis has resulted in 19 positive identifications across Quebec and New Brunswick since 2001 (although some of these were shown to be of South American lineage, suggesting escaped pets). The Network's interactive map also shows confirmed sightings in Quebec, Maine, Connecticut and New York State. I took pictures but now wished I had placed an object to get the scale of the prints. It was pretty and calm, Saw one this morning lying in the road on our dead end street only about 100 yards from the main road. 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